Posts by BlackSwan of Memphis

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So are the GB now saying that they are NOT the "faithful and discreet slave"?

by stuckinarut2 in

so can someone clarify this please?.

the claim has been made that the gb is the faithful and discreet slave.

especially was this highlighted during the agm (when the silver bible was released).. but are they now saying that this "appointment" isn't happening until the "great tribulation"?.

BlackSwan of Memphis

Ah well there ya go.
I am pretty amazed with you guys that have this stuff ready to pull up. It's funny, I don't even have a clue how to get to the online crap as fast y'all.
If they weren't just putting up these ridiculous videos on the conventions re the people in the basement/bunkers AND The message changing AND talking about the Great Tribulation right on the heels of their little FDS change, it would be different and I probably wouldn't even notice.
It seems almost like it's been perfectly scripted. Kwim?
Have to wonder how far back they've been plotting this crap.
They're clever little snots.

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DESTROYING the Governing Body’s claim of authority

by TerryWalstrom in

destroying the governing body’s claim of authority.

begin at the beginning.

what source authority did early christians have?.

BlackSwan of Memphis

Great research. Lots there to read.
Never knew that about Maria Russell.

I think it's rather amazing the way that the Organization rips on the Catholic Church but so remarkably resembles them.

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So are the GB now saying that they are NOT the "faithful and discreet slave"?

by stuckinarut2 in

so can someone clarify this please?.

the claim has been made that the gb is the faithful and discreet slave.

especially was this highlighted during the agm (when the silver bible was released).. but are they now saying that this "appointment" isn't happening until the "great tribulation"?.

BlackSwan of Memphis

Yeah, wow, that's even better.
Wow, that's like Russell/Rutherford all over again.
Leading from heaven.
Have to wonder if one dies then can the rest say "we're receiving heavenly direction from our appointed slave?"|
eta
Not too distant future can be 10 years. I'm just thinking that it's going to be relatively soon (not a couple generations from now).
eta.a
I'm just calling it the way I'm seeing it. The more I read (watch?) the more it just jumps out. But who the hell knows what's in their weenie brains?

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So are the GB now saying that they are NOT the "faithful and discreet slave"?

by stuckinarut2 in

so can someone clarify this please?.

the claim has been made that the gb is the faithful and discreet slave.

especially was this highlighted during the agm (when the silver bible was released).. but are they now saying that this "appointment" isn't happening until the "great tribulation"?.

BlackSwan of Memphis

They get the major appt at the start of the GT which is why I think they're going to pull the GT card some time in the not too distant future, as it'll allow them to exert more 'authority' over the flock. Hence the reason why they've been saying be ready to do whatever we tell you to do. It's like they not only bought themselves more time, they've bought themselves more power and control. And what that's probably going to mean is the message (ha) will change to a judgment warning. Which buys them even more time. This could easily be dragged on for another hundred years. It really depends on who's in charge at any given time and what's going on both in the organization (financially/politically) and in the world.

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I really really hate this religion

by BlackSwan of Memphis in

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friends

getting back here, getting on to some fb groups and reading stories, meeting new people it's mind blowing the callous crap that these men are allowed to get away with.

i mean i get that religion in general can be considered bad all around, but i have friends who are religious and no, none of them have seen this type of callous disregard for humanity come from religion.

not on this level.

BlackSwan of Memphis

:(

This is the insanity that is the JW Organization.

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I really really hate this religion

by BlackSwan of Memphis in

jw
friends

getting back here, getting on to some fb groups and reading stories, meeting new people it's mind blowing the callous crap that these men are allowed to get away with.

i mean i get that religion in general can be considered bad all around, but i have friends who are religious and no, none of them have seen this type of callous disregard for humanity come from religion.

not on this level.

BlackSwan of Memphis

The stories, the heartbreak, the pain.
This is messed up crap. This is not humane.

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I really really hate this religion

by BlackSwan of Memphis in

jw
friends

getting back here, getting on to some fb groups and reading stories, meeting new people it's mind blowing the callous crap that these men are allowed to get away with.

i mean i get that religion in general can be considered bad all around, but i have friends who are religious and no, none of them have seen this type of callous disregard for humanity come from religion.

not on this level.

BlackSwan of Memphis

getting back here, getting on to some FB groups and reading stories, meeting new people it's mind blowing the callous crap that these men are allowed to get away with. i mean i get that religion in general can be considered bad all around, but I have friends who are religious and no, none of them have seen this type of callous disregard for humanity come from religion. Not on this level.

it's heartbreaking. I'm lucky. I had two of my kids before I left, a non-JW husband w non-JW family. I struggled, sure. But i had support.

So many of these people flat out don't have support.

This is just wrong on so many levels.

To those of you who are struggling to get through, questioning and scared....
You're not alone. You are so not alone.

Reach out and look for a local group. For those who simply can't.... I'm so glad that this place exists.

Big hugs to you people. xo

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Is it Time to Declare that The Great Tribulation Has Started ?

by OnTheWayOut in

i don't really engage in doctrinal discussions about jw's anymore.

they seem to say some pretty crazy stuff.

but i have read some threads discussing doctrinal changes and how watchtower is really out of ideas and money at the same time.

BlackSwan of Memphis

Flipper, exactly, this is some weird stuff.
And they don't give two squats about their members.
The creepy thing is that they have far more money than these other half wit cults.
But as it comes out that they are just that - a cult - what will they do? What are they preparing to do?

I wish you so much peace with your family. As a mom I don't know that I can comprehend the pain of my kids being stuck in this organization. It's hard enough with my mom and sibs, but my kids? That would be the ultimate devastation.

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Are we sure that there aren't more 'compound'-ish structures?

by BlackSwan of Memphis in

wasn't sure where to put this but .... .

so mr bsom and i got to talking and we got to wondering if there aren't other compound like buildings being structured, or if assembly halls have been built with greater living quarters?

the entirety of this situation is really beginning to shape up like the davidians or jim jones.

BlackSwan of Memphis

Oh man, I wholeheartedly agree with that. Big yes re the manipulation. They are evil. Pure evil.
There are people in that cult who are battling serious anxiety and this s**t doesn't help.
They're narcissists to the bone.
And perhaps that partly why I tend to see them as believing this crap. Narcs really do tend to have delusions of grandeur. They seriously have this inflated sense of esteem. "I AM GOD!"
Very David Koresh.
"If you don't do what I tell you to God is going to punish you because God made me his one true servant, b**ches."
(I'm just asterisking the letters because I don't want to get in trouble but it feels ridiculous...)

think of it like this... (eta I'm not wanting to offend anyone with the following, it's just a matter of following how people reason things out)
Isn't it bizarre for people to really think that a deity incarnated himself as a human into the womb of a woman was born lived for 30 something years then had himself crucified on a piece of wood only so that he could forgive mankind for being exactly what he created them to be? and for said people to truly believe that they are the only ones who could ever possibly be forgiven if they worship said deity?

But people do. They believe it. And they also believe in any number of other things.

What makes it such a stretch for the GB to believe their own delusions?

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Watched The Bunker Videos Again On JWSurvey

by JW_Rogue in

i watched the bunker videos again and noticed something strange.

even though none of the characters had actually been disloyal to the org when commended for their loyalty they all say "it wasn't always that way".

it was always that way, none of them had actually sinned!

BlackSwan of Memphis

See I noticed that the actors, namely Kevin, seemed like they were doing an SNL skit.
Kevin's whispery voice was very Dana Carvey and while I'm reasonably sure this is not a joke, I'm still waiting for someone to call it 'gotcha suckers' because the acting was so lousy. Which I'm not sure what that says for SNL.